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William Logan was good enough to send me an old article posted on rec. This seems to contain newer information than the other page. The obvious proof to this is that the FASA folks admitted it when questioned at a convention :-but to help back that claim, here are most of the printed and observed links between ED and SR: Shadowrun Sources Shadowrun In the introduction to the Critters section, reference is made to the possible origins of Dragons.
Also, Sperethiel is given as the name of the Elvish language, which is the same name the Elven language has shadowrun dating seite ED. Seattle Sourcebook The Atlantean Foundation is reviewed. Thera, the heart of a powerful empire in ED, is the actual name of an island near Greece shadowrun dating seite is commonly held to be the site that Plato based his Atlantis stories upon— both were destroyed in some horrible accident. First establishment of fact shadowrun dating seite the Dragons did exist in a prior age of the Earth, shadowrun dating seite, and first establishment that there are metaplanes quite beyond the eight established SR metaplanes, and that the inhabitants of such places are not only inimical to normal life, but purely evil as well; obviously the Horrors of ED.
Harlequin The first confirmation of immortals beyond Free Spirits and Dragons in the SR world, Harlequin and Ehran are both shown to have lived in pre-Revolution France, and make reference to have lived for a long, long time before that. Harlequin and Ehran also converse in a language that predates Shadowrun dating seite, a mystery language that is mentioned in both Denizens of Earthdawn I and Tir Tairngire.
Wyrm Talk A source of a lot of tie ins, being as it is a conversation between Dunklezahn the Dragon and Harlequin the Elf, both holdovers from at least the Fourth World. Both make obvious references to having been around a while, and both refer to the Invae, shadowrun dating seite that humanity seems to be holding their own against the Invae without too much trouble.
As per the Barsaive sourcebook, the Invae are clearly confirmed to be the Insect Spirits from SR. Paranormal Animals of Europe The Sprite is shown, which is obviously a Windling from ED.
They are Evil, if anything is. In the ED rules, in the history of Barsaive section, descriptions given of the Signs of the Scourge describe mist-like wraith beings driving men to violence against one another, which matches exactly the description and powers of the SR Wraith. Never Trust an Elf A novel, in which more references to immortals are made— indeed, the fact that some elves may be immortal is a major shadowrun dating seite of the plot.
Lofwyr mentions to Khan the Ork that shadowrun dating seite Orks were once the slaves of the Elves, a long time ago. In ED, shadowrun dating seite, the Orks were the only Name-Giving race regularly enslaved by all the rest. The Passions, of shadowrun dating seite, are the great guiding spirits of life in ED. The Blood Elves of ED, of course, have the same condition. Another of the Princes is reported to have blasted to atoms some rose bushes that his wife planted behind their house without his permission.
High amounts of magic are associated with the lake, and the Tir cordoned it off after the general knowledge that it was believed to have been created years ago leaked out. Most blatantly, the description of the Ways and Paths is nearly exactly the same as the Paths described in Denizens I.
Likewise, the function and purpose of the Seelie Court in Tír na nÓg is that of the Court of the Elven Queen at least before the Corruption in ED presented in Denizens Ithat of preserving and setting by example the strictures of Elven society. Likewise, both sources mention the unique spirits of the Great Fiery Path.
This one has a strange spirit that resembles, in conduct and appearance, the Passion Vestrial, visiting a drunken Harlequin late one night, shadowrun dating seite.
This name is very close to the name of a bunch of ED knights from the City of Spires to the north of the campaign setting in Earthdawn, called the Knights of the Crimson Spire, shadowrun dating seite.
The adventure itself is a shadowrun dating seite ad for ED. The Enemy, a bunch of powerful, world-destroying spirits, are coming back through the mana spike created by the Great Ghost Dance, and unless Harlequin and the runners pull off a dangerous astral quest, the whole world is doomed, shadowrun dating seite. Harlequin uses a shadowrun dating seite of powers that closely resemble the abilities of the specialized Horror fighters called Lightbearers from ED, including the ability to shift bodily into astral space Ehran is able to do this as welland summon armor and weapons of light.
Denver This sourcebox contains two crossover references, shadowrun dating seite. In the main description part, Harlequin under an obvious alias remarks on how changing the Name of a location can lessen the power that location has.
Meanwhile, a leading talismonger in Denver apparently has the Bottled Demon from the adventure of the same name, shadowrun dating seite. Prime Runners The talismonger in this book has apparently found remains of a lost civilization in the Ukraine. The main campaign setting in ED takes place there. Even more interestingly, shadowrun dating seite, the lover of the main elf in the book is supposedly an elf who chose to be reincarnated as a human for some murky karmaic reason.
An agent for the Blood Queen in Tir Tairngire is horrified by the thought of having to undergo the Ritual of the Thorns, which is what the Blood Elves used in ED. House of the Sun A novel in which Harlequin appears and more hidden Horror references are made. Aztlan A variety of immortal comments are sprinkled throughout Aztlanmost of which only confirm things that are already known.
Of new information, the President of Aztechnology is referred to, in a very obscure way, shadowrun dating seite, as a Horror construct, a particular type of toxic lifeform in SR terms created by a Horror. This leads the opening to having a Horror being in charge shadowrun dating seite Aztechnology.
For you Harlequin watchers, shadowrun dating seite, he shows up here again as well. Humans and the Cycle of Magic An address from Ehran the Scribe of Harlequin and Tir Tairngire fame to the Young Elven Technologists who also play an important part in Harlequin. An alternate, later version clearly indicates that Ehran has been alive for a very long time, but suggests that either Ehran is lying about da Vinci or the revelation of the immortal elf Brightlight as Leonardo da Vinci in Black Madonna is false.
More likely, Sargent and Gascoigne never read that particular FASA update. Worlds Without End More immortal elves than you can shake a stick at. Aina, the immortal elf tortured by the Horror Ysrthgrathe of Horrors gets together with her ex-boyfriend Caimbeul aka Harlequin and goes to Tir na nÓg and Tir Tairngire to meet with all manner of immortal beings.
Post Mortem A covert conversation between Harlequin and Ehran the Scribe, shadowrun dating seite, discussing the who might have killed Dunkelzahn, how Frosty from Harlequin is doing and suggesting that Harlequin was indeed Richard the Lion Heartedthough the statement that suggests it could be taken shadowrun dating seite be metaphorical rather than literal. If so, it may be that Harlequin and Ehran were once lovers In the same story, Wraiths from the PAoE are mentioned, as well as insect beings that take over Name-Giver bodies and souls -- the Insect Spirits Invae of SR.
The races or at least the humanoid ones are the same as SR. Sperethiel is, once again, shadowrun dating seite, the name for the Elven tongue.
References are made to immortal elves. Dragons are divided into two types, normal and Great, just like SR. The measurements of dragons, if converted from English to metric, also match those of the SR dragons.
Cathay dragons are obviously Eastern Dragons [and are rumored to have come from the stars! In German, Darktooth is Dunklezahn. Magicians are divided into adepts and full spellcasters, like SR although shadowrun dating seite ED adepts have, admittedly, far greater powers than their SR counterparts.
The magical theory of both games is similar. The Passions are also described, matching the shadowrun dating seite to them in Tir Tairngireshadowrun dating seite, among others. References are made to ages of magic cycled with ages of nonmagic, just like in Tir Tairngire. Both games make use of orichalcum, a rare magical alloy. The map of Barsaive fits the description of the lower Russian landmass between the Caspian and Black Seas, shadowrun dating seite.
Barsaive The Invae are clearly described and are obviously the Insect Spirits from SR. Thera is said to lay far to the southwest of Barsaive in the Selestrean Sea, which is an obvious match to the Barsaive map being in Russia if Thera is Atlantis, located at the real-world Thera in the Aegean Sea, shadowrun dating seite.
The Longing Ring and Poisoned Memories Novels, good only to reestablish the belief that Mountainshadow is Dunkelzahn. Mentions that Alamaise killed the Elf Queen. Gives the theory of the Great Wheel of Life and the Five Paths that the Elves walk on it, which is functionably the same as the Ways and Paths of Tír na nÓg.
The names they took were Vili and Vi, who are, of course, the names of the brothers of Odin from German mythology, and Germany is to the northwest of Barsaive. Creatures of Earthdawn The cockatrice is the same as the SR one, although the basilisk is different.
This could just be a change of species in a particular area. There are stats provided for a trilobite!!! Tir Tairngire is almost certainly the rebirth of Thera, or at least Shosara, the original renegade Elven nation.
They share the same rituals, and general attitude of adopting new technology to help them keep their powerbase in the world. This does make it a bit difficult to explain why the Blood Queen is currently in Tir Tairngire, shadowrun dating seite, however. My take is that Alachia is listed, shadowrun dating seite, in the Barsaive sourcebooks, as having some second thoughts about how great an idea the Ritual of the Thorns was, really.
Pride and her position would keep her from admitting it in ED right now, of shadowrun dating seite, but shadowrun dating seite she ever did come around and try to say she was wrong, her subjects in the Wyrm Wood, angered at their Queen actually trying to say that all this pain they went through on her account was a mistake, and that they really should be ashamed of themselves, turn on her, shadowrun dating seite.
This suggests that it should correspond to a drain-like phenomenon, much like spells. Instead, mark boxes off the body overflow condition monitor after you reach Deadly damage.
One box should be worth a few points of permanent damage; check on the Wound and Death thresholds to get a valid comparison. Pattern Items arise from an object having a strong association with a True Pattern.
Minor items can arise from continued associations; Major and Core items must be used in a significant way. Obtaining Key Knowledges from an enchanted item is an advanced form of psychometry. Runners already perform a certain amount of Thread Weaving with their Karma.
They weave threads shadowrun dating seite themselves and their Groups by creating Karma Pools and enhancing their own stats, shadowrun dating seite. Bonding foci is another practice that works much like Thread Weaving. Since it is only used at Circle 4, any formal Thread Weaving should require being a Grade 3 Initiate. As magic theory goes, resurrection is theoretically possible with a Circle 10 ritual!
but cannot be performed unless the mana cycle is at its peak, shadowrun dating seite. Anyone knowing a lot about ED magic, though, will remark on how easy healing is by SR magical theory.
Earthdawn/Shadowrun Crossover Information
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